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Davos day four: ‘Too much pessimism’ about European economy, WEF hears – business live


It’s time for the final set-piece event in Davos today – a session on the global economic outlook.

On the panel we have IMF managing director Kristalina Georgieva, Saudi Arabia’s economy and planning minister Faisal Alibrahim, BlackRock CEO Larry Fink, ECB president Christine Lagarde, and Singapore’s president Tharman Shanmugaratnam.

The introduction to the session says:

Nearly five years since the COVID-19 pandemic upended the global economy, growth is slow but stable, inflation has gradually declined in advanced economies and trade trends have turned positive. Despite this, there remain challenges such as high public debt burdens, ongoing geo-economic tensions and the potential impact of industrial policies on smaller countries.

Given this landscape, what are the plausible scenarios for the global economy in 2025?

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Key events

This year’s WEF annual meeting wrapped up with Børge Brende, president and CEO of the World Economic Forum, telling delegates that we are at a critical time.

Brende says this year’s meeting happened

I think we all realize during this week that we came together in Davos at the time of immense consequence and uncertainty.

Political, geopolitical and macroeconomic landscape – all are shifting under our feet. At this very moment the clock is quickly ticking down to meet critical political priorities: driving economic growth, reducing carbon emissions, finding ways to end conflict.

The only way to make progress is to work together, he says.

And (with a nod to Donald Trump?) Brende concedes that WEF’s cooperative approaches may need to adapt to a new, more uncertain era.

There is a new political reality that we are faced with.

The session ends with a bit of news.

Saudi Arabia will host regular meetings of the World Economic Forum, starting from spring 2026, Saudi Economy Minister Faisal Alibrahim has announced.

Alibrahim told delegates:

“We look forward to welcoming the global community again in Saudi Arabia in the spring of 2026.”

[WEF holds various other meetings around the globe through the year, as well as the Annual Meeting in Davos]

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Georgieva: AI must not be preserve of the few

IMF managing director Kristalina Georgieva and ECB president Christine Lagarde have called for artificial intelligence technologies to be made widely available, to improve the world for all.

Asked to name an opportunity for growth in 2025, Georgieva says:

[to] make sure that artificial intelligence is not a privilege of few, and not accessible for the rest of the world.

ECB’s Christine Lagarde seconds this point, saying AI has been “much discussed” at the World Economic Forum this week.

We are not exactly certain what the potential is. We think that it’s huge.

We believe that it is going to have a massive impact, and I think we should make sure that it’s used for good, to improve the state of the world, for all of us.

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The President of Singapore, Tharman Shanmugaratnam, tells Davos that the most neglected dimension of national strategy in most parts of the world is social policy.

He argues that this means maximizing human potential in every segment of the population.

Shanmugaratnam explains:

It means finding ways of recreating social compacts so that people feel some sense of solidarity even between different ethnic groups, different nationalities.

And it means, very importantly, thereby building the basis for political consensus to keep economies open and interdependent.

And those three things must go together, the economic strategy of openness, the social policy of not leaving things to a social market, but intervening to help everyone uplift themselves, and the politics that then allows you to carry on being open.

If any one of those fails, each of them falls apart.

Fink: Europe isn’t working

Looking at Europe again, Larry Fink warns that Europe is not moving forward enough, looking backwards too much.

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Fink claims that Europe is a “myth”, saying:

It’s a beautiful myth, but it’s not working. It is not working.

He adds that Europe is struggling to compete against the strength, the innovation and the entrepreneurialism of the United States.

Christine Lagarde responds, insisting that Europe is not a myth or a basket case.

But she concedes that Europe is not a proper single market.

If it was (as it claims to be), it would remove the equivalent custom duties of 40% on its goods that are transacted within Europe and 110% of custom duties on its services.

So I agree with you that it is not operating and functioning as a single market…

The real question for the Europeans, corporate and policy makers alike, is get on and do it.

Christine Lagarde then gets an unplayable delivery here at Davos.

She’s asked about president Trump’s claim to WEF yesterday that the EU does not treat the US fairly on trade.

Q: Is that true?

Lagarde cries foul – pointing out there is “no way” she can either say yes or no.

But she then makes some good points – when looking at trade, you should consider services as well as goods trade.

And while some countries are in a stronger position than others, they all need each other.

If there is one thing that the Europeans have learned over the course of time since the end of the Second World War, is that you cannot go alone, Lagarde adds.

You have to work together. You have to respect each other and you have to understand each other, she insists.

Q: Is anyone on the panel a fan of tariffs?

No hands go up (no surprise there).

Saudi Arabia’s economy and planning minister Faisal Alibrahim, explains that tariffs can work as a tool, as long as they are objectives-driven and time-bound.

He says they could give an economy time to build resilience or leverage, or give space for the private sector to grow some competitive advantage.

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The important thing is to keep dialog on the table and keep the orderly, respectful discussion going, Alibrahim adds.

Onto the interest rate outlook, and Larry Fink says the Federal Reserve still have room to cut, to create a steeper near-term yield curve.

But the next few months of data will determine what happens – Fink points out that there are signs the US economy was very strong in the fourth quarter of the year.

So the Fed may pause for another period of time, and they may ease a little bit, he suggests.

Blackrock’s Larry Fink then says he can see a scenario where we see 5.5% on US 10-year yields.

10-year Treasuries are currently trading at a yield around 4.6%, so Fink’s forecast implies a rise in benchmark borrowing costs.

That would be bad news for the UK, as our gilt yields tend to move in line with US debt.

Q: Is the inflation genie back in the bottle?

IMF chief Kristaline Georgieva demonstrates that the head of the genie is back in the bottle, most of the body is in too, but the legs are dangling out.

She then points out that historically, rising inflation has led to a rise in interest rates that caused a recession.

This is first time so far that inflation is being brought down, interest rates are still somewhat high, but growth is still positive (though below historic norms), she says.

Georgieva explains:

If we succeed to bring inflation down but maintain economy functioning so people still have jobs…and more confidence, that would be a very good outcome.

Larry Fink cautions, though, that “the genie may be coming out of the bottle”.

Fink cites increased demand for power for AI systems, and predicts labour shortages that would lift wages – a good outcome for workers, but also an inflationary one. There could also be shortages of materials.

Fink : should not be complacent, inflation can hit us again.

Trump won’t like that! But Larry Fink is right. #Inflation certainly hasn’t gone away but judging by the euphoria in global equity markets you would think it had.

The recent fall in the price of oil obviously…

— Ronnie (@Ronmarkets) January 24, 2025

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Georgieva: Europe could learn from US culture of confidence

Kristalina Georgieva then tells Davos that Europe could use a dose of the US culture of confidence.

The United States has a culture of confidence. Europe has a culture of modesty, she says.

Georgieva explains that when did something “really fantastically well”, the highest praise from her parents would be “not bad”.

But in the US, “You just move your legs and you’re fantastic”.

That attitude mean people are more confident in the US, they believe in themselves, and – most importantly – tell others that you do, Georgieva adds.

IMF chief Georgieva tells Davos that the world is changing very rapidly.

“We are experiencing a tremendous technological transformation,” she says.

IMF chief Kristalina Georgieva says growth in the US is so strong, compared to other countries due to productivity growth.

The US is “marching ahead” with high productivity, because capital markets allocate money to dynamic firms, she says, such as technology companies.

Also, the US has – relatively speaking – abundant, and thus cheaper, energy.

Lagarde: European leaders must respond to wake-up call

Christine Lagarde says she is pretty confident about the European outlook.

She points out the debt/GDP ratio is about 80% for the euro area, and there is strong confidence that inflation is going down rather than up.

Europe has a huge amount of talent, huge amount of savings and a big wake up call that is prompting them to take action, Lagarde says, adding:

So if the European leaders can actually get the act together, respond to this wake up call and existential threat that can be identified, then I think that there is a huge potential for Europe to respond to the call.

Lagarde agrees with Larry Fink that Europe does need banking union and capital market union.





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